Mormonism Explained

Sun and Moon Inhabitants: What Mormon Prophets Said

Yes — Brigham Young once speculated from the pulpit that the sun is inhabited, and a late recollection attributes a moon-people teaching to Joseph Smith. Critics offer these as proof that prophets asserted absurd cosmology. Here is exactly what was said, how well each statement is sourced, what the smartest people of that century believed about the same question, and the published test that tells you what is doctrine and what never was.

The Short Answer

Did Mormon prophets teach that the sun and moon are inhabited?

Key Takeaways

  • The Brigham Young quote is real. Journal of Discourses 13:271 (1870): asked rhetorically whether the sun is inhabited — “I rather think it is.” This article quotes it straight and does not explain it away.
  • The Joseph Smith moon story is a sourcing problem. Its only source is Oliver B. Huntington — writing in 1881 and 1892, four to five decades after the fact, recalling secondhand what he heard as a youth. No contemporary account exists.
  • Neither statement was ever doctrine. Not canonized, not taught in curriculum, not presented as revelation, never binding. Under the Church’s published standard, both classify as opinion.
  • The era believed it too — at the highest levels. William Herschel argued the sun was likely inhabited in a Royal Society paper, and in 1835 a New York newspaper convinced much of the country that a moon civilization had been discovered.
  • The actual doctrine is different — and still stands. Scripture teaches that God created “worlds without number” (Moses 1:33) and that inhabited worlds exist (D&C 76:24). Which worlds was never revealed.
  • Prophetic fallibility is the Church’s own teaching, not a concession. Joseph Smith himself: “a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such.”

The Critics’ Reading

“Prophets asserted absurd cosmology — so much for prophets.” The claim: these quotes prove Church leaders confidently taught nonsense as truth, and a prophet wrong about the sun cannot be trusted about salvation.

Steelmanned in §07

The Record

“One sourced speculation, one late rumor — neither ever doctrine, both era-mainstream.” The documented picture: a hedged pulpit musing that matched the best science of its day, a secondhand story recorded decades later, and a published doctrinal standard under which neither ever qualified as the faith’s teaching.

Every claim primary-sourced · Critics’ best case included

Feature

The words

What the Record Shows

“Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is.” — JD 13:271 (1870)

Why It Matters

Accurately quoted by critics; hedged (“I rather think”), not declarative

Feature

The claim made

What the Record Shows

The sun (and moon) may well be inhabited; God’s creations are not made in vain

Why It Matters

An inference from a true doctrine (worlds are inhabited) to an era-bound guess (which ones)

Feature

The authority invoked

What the Record Shows

None — no revelation, vision, or scripture cited for the point

Why It Matters

Form matters: speculation offered as speculation

Feature

Its doctrinal fate

What the Record Shows

Never canonized · never curriculum · never binding

Why It Matters

The Doctrine Test’s gates, walked in §04

Believer

William Herschel

The Claim

Sun likely inhabited beneath a luminous atmosphere; lunar inhabitants near-certain

Standing

The era’s greatest astronomer; argued in a Royal Society paper

Believer

Thomas Dick

The Claim

~22 trillion solar-system inhabitants; ~4.2 billion on the moon

Standing

Bestselling science writer in Joseph Smith’s America

Believer

The American public, 1835

The Claim

A moon civilization observed by telescope — believed en masse

Standing

The Great Moon Hoax, New York Sun

Believer

Brigham Young, 1870

The Claim

“I rather think” the sun is inhabited; God makes nothing in vain

Standing

Pulpit speculation — same era, same reasoning, never doctrine

The Doctrine Test — Applied to “The Sun and Moon Are Inhabited”

1 · Is it in the canon — the standard works, sustained by common consent?

no

2 · Taught consistently by the First Presidency and the Twelve today?

no

3 · Declared in a formal First Presidency statement or proclamation?

no

4 · Ever taught as binding doctrine — curriculum, manuals, required belief?

no

▶ Verdict: Personal Opinion

Single-occasion speculation, hedged in its own wording, never canonized, never curriculum, never required of any member.

The moon attribution fails a prior gate entirely: it cannot be established that Joseph Smith said it at all (one late, secondhand source).

Contrast: curse-of-Cain teachings ran farther down these gates and required disavowal. This never rose that high.

The five destinations, for orientation: Canonized doctrine (binding) · Consistent current teaching · Official position (formal declaration) · Superseded/disavowed teaching (taught once, formally set aside) · Personal opinion (speculation — never the Church’s)

The full instrument, with worked examples across our library, classifies every contested teaching this site publishes the same way.

All four gates return no — the claim lands in the lowest tier, personal opinion. This is the same instrument that classifies hard cases against the Church’s interest elsewhere in our library (the curse-of-Cain teachings land at disavowed, a more serious tier). A test with teeth in both directions is the only kind worth publishing.

Principle

1 · Centered on Christ

The Test

Is the content meaningfully connected to the Savior?

How This Article Passes

The surviving doctrine is Christ’s: worlds without number created by Him, their inhabitants begotten to God through Him (§05; D&C 76:24).

Principle

2 · Primary sources

The Test

Does the record speak for itself?

How This Article Passes

JD 13:271 quoted directly; the Huntington recollections cited by date and venue; Herschel’s Royal Society position and the 1835 hoax from the historical record (§01–03).

Principle

3 · Multiple witnesses

The Test

Is any conclusion built on an isolated statement?

How This Article Passes

Inverted and applied: the moon story is rejected as unestablished precisely because it rests on one late witness — the same bar applied to faith-promoting claims (§02).

Principle

4 · No speculation

The Test

Does the material go beyond what is established?

How This Article Passes

The article classifies the era’s speculation without adding its own; where the record is thin (the blessing detail), it is hedged as the family record (§02).

Principle

5 · Spiritual edification

The Test

Is the tone constructive, not combative?

How This Article Passes

Brigham Young is presented as a man of his century urging his people toward all truth; critics’ concerns are answered, not mocked (§01, §07).

Principle

6 · Doctrinal balance

The Test

Are fragments kept with their balancing truths?

How This Article Passes

The dead opinion is never separated from the living doctrine it extended — worlds without number stands beside the retired guess (§05).

Principle

7 · Clarity

The Test

Is truth communicated plainly?

How This Article Passes

The whole verdict compresses to one sentence: a prophet guessed his century’s science aloud, and the Church never made the guess its doctrine (§04, §08).

Principle

8 · Accuracy

The Test

Are hard facts owned — including the ones that sting?

How This Article Passes

The quote is real and quoted; “the sun is not inhabited” is stated flatly; no euphemism for a wrong guess (§01, §03).

Principle

9 · No distractions

The Test

Does anything overshadow the gospel’s core?

How This Article Passes

Kolob and exaltation-cosmology caricatures are left for their own studies; this page holds to its claim (§05, §10).

Did Brigham Young say the sun is inhabited?

Yes — “I rather think it is,” in an 1870 discourse (JD 13:271). Hedged speculation, never doctrine.

REAL QUOTE — NEVER DOCTRINE

Did Joseph Smith teach the moon has inhabitants?

It can’t be established. The only source is one secondhand recollection written 37–48 years after his death. No contemporary record exists.

ONE LATE, SECONDHAND SOURCE

Was any of this ever Church doctrine?

No — never canonized, never in curriculum, never a required belief. Under the Church’s published standard, it classifies as personal opinion.

PERSONAL OPINION

Did smart people believe this back then?

The smartest. William Herschel argued the sun was likely inhabited in a Royal Society paper, and much of America believed the 1835 moon-civilization hoax.

THE ERA’S MAINSTREAM SCIENCE

What does LDS scripture actually teach?

That God created “worlds without number” and that inhabited worlds exist (Moses 1:33; D&C 76:24). Which worlds was never revealed.

WORLDS WITHOUT NUMBER

Do Mormons believe prophets are infallible?

No — the opposite is the teaching. “A prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such” is Joseph Smith’s own statement.

FALLIBILITY IS THE DOCTRINE

Where does the Brigham Young sun quote come from?
What exactly is the Joseph Smith moon-people story?
Why would God’s prophet not know basic astronomy?
Isn’t “that was just his opinion” a convenient escape hatch?
Do Latter-day Saints believe in life on other worlds today?

“He said it in a sermon to the whole Church. In Mormonism that IS doctrine — Brigham Young himself said his sermons were scripture.”

Verdict: The Church’s mechanism for making doctrine is canonization by common consent — and it never touched this.

Brigham Young did, on occasion, speak expansively about the authority of his preaching — and the Church’s actual practice answers the point better than any argument: his sermons were never canonized, the Journal of Discourses was never made scripture, and even his most developed speculative teaching (the Adam–God theory) was formally repudiated by later prophets rather than defended as binding. The system’s verdict on pulpit-equals-canon is written in what it did: it kept the canon closed to these statements. Doctrine is what the Church canonizes and consistently teaches — a bar this musing never approached.

“You’d never accept ‘one late secondhand source’ as an excuse if the story were faith-promoting. This is special pleading.”

Verdict: Agreed on the standard — which is why we apply it both ways, and said so.

The source discipline that dissolves the moon-Quakers story — contemporaneity, firsthandedness, corroboration — is exactly the discipline that should retire late, uncorroborated faith-promoting stories too, and serious Latter-day Saint historiography (the Joseph Smith Papers among them) applies it that way. This article states plainly that Huntington-grade evidence could not establish a miracle, a quote, or a doctrine either. If a critic and we agree on the evidentiary bar, the only question left is whether the moon story clears it. It does not — from either direction.

“Science keeps disproving the prophets. First an inhabited sun, next the rest of it.”

Verdict: Science retired the opinion — and has been steadily kinder to the doctrine.

Track the two claims separately, because they have opposite trajectories. The opinion — an inhabited sun and moon — was the era’s science, and the era’s science died; no Latter-day Saint doctrine died with it, because none was ever staked on it. The doctrine — worlds without number, inhabited creations of God — was the audacious claim in 1830, when the known planets numbered a handful. Two centuries later, confirmed exoplanets number in the thousands and the search for habitable worlds is a mainstream scientific program. A critic is free to say prophets guessed with their century about the sun. The record adds: their scripture out-claimed their century about the cosmos, and the century has been catching up ever since.